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i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of thin
i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a...
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. >> secretary of state hillary clinton talking about egypt there. the country has been dealing with political turmoil and mass protest in the streets and there's a new twist today. egypt's supreme constitutional court has just issued a statement suspending its activity because of the protests. let's get more now from cnn's reza sayah that's in cairo. why did the court do this today? >> reporter: it looks like they were worried about their safety, randi." this is a big development, and these opposition factions behind us around going to like this, but this seems to shift the momentum in favor of the president and his supporters. this was the top court in egypt. they canceled a hearing where they were about to rule on the constitutionality of president morsi's decrees last week, and the constitutionalityality of this special panel that did the draft constitution. the government did a dismal black day, and the statement said they tried to walk in the courthouse, and the demonstrators in favor of the president had blocked the -- and climbed the walls an
. >> secretary of state hillary clinton talking about egypt there. the country has been dealing with political turmoil and mass protest in the streets and there's a new twist today. egypt's supreme constitutional court has just issued a statement suspending its activity because of the protests. let's get more now from cnn's reza sayah that's in cairo. why did the court do this today? >> reporter: it looks like they were worried about their safety, randi." this is a big...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...
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. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him during our show, was there any movement of these weapons, because i agree with what nick said, they have been there, was there movement because it would be dangerous. i said no, not yet. movement i think implies that we are going to send aircraft into hit them. >> if he tries to use chemical weapons on his people it will do somethi something. >> i don't think we are being duped now. there is a big difference between now and 2003. >> i don't think we have any idea. they are not going to be helpful now. it is hard to see how they would advance his cause. he is clearly not a stupid man. >> if you
. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
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secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this point if, in fact, they are already in a position where they're loading these components on to the weapons? >> well, one is this public message from the united states, from the nato secretary general and from the russians. the syrian government, including assad personally, will be held accountable. second is perhaps to see if the russians can use their influence. they're the big egest arms supplier to syria, the biggest ally that syria has, to dissuade the syrians from letting this chemical weapons loose or using them against the rebel alliance. if assad should fall and there's a chaotic period of time where no one is in charge of the government in
secretary clinton has done that twice on her current trip. secretary clinton will be meeting with the russian foreign minister and the u.n. mediator in syria today in brevlin. >> let's talk about those meetings. >> you can be sure that this issue of chemical weapons will be at the top of the list. >> no question about that. what are the options there? what can the international community do at this point if, in fact, they are already in a position where they're loading these...
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hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned -- >> as far as the world is concerned. >> you saw that story in "the atlantic" magazine, they posted it on their website, that israel has asked jordan for permission to go in there and attack those chemical weapons sites in syria. >> i saw the report. i'm not aware of these contacts. but this affects all the countries of the region. it will be a game changer in the sense that the world will not stand still and watch these chemical and by logical weapons being used or the threat of them being used. it is going to be a game changer. so far, the lack of unanimity on ho
hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned --...
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. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remem
. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on...
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in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask you this, wolf. you have been at this game a long time. this intractability sounds and feel it's like nothing we have ever seen before. do you have any sort of, i don't know, light on the horizon that you see? are we going to be this polarized and literally make the country pay for what's now become just sheer ugly politics? >> my own gut tells me that between now and the end of the year they will reach a deal. and it will be a compromise and both sides won't be thrilled by it, but it will be better than the alternative. and it will probably go down to the last minute. it usually does. maybe ruin some chris
in the '90s when the government shut down eyeball to eyeball negotiations were going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask...
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bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of international controversy. you were saying that great britain a
bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to...
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it was 39.6%, jessica, during the clinton administration. now there's some suggestion what if they compromise, have it go up to 36% or 37%, is that something you're hearing the white house would potentially be open to? not 39.6% but maybe 37%? >> reporter: this seems like an area, yes, for wiggle room, wolf. not because they say so, but because of what they won't say. when we asked that question, the white house does not say that it must only go back up to that high clinton rate. and so it seems that there could be some flexibility in how high -- what level it has to go back to. >> yeah. and that would be for those earning more than $250,000 a year. jessica, thanks very much. we're also learning more about what president obama and mitt romney talks about over lunch at the white house this afternoon. our national political correspondent jim acosta's getting some details. they also released the menu of what they were eating. but give us the substance. >> that's right. turkey chili was on the menu. perhaps thanksgiving leftovers. i talked to a
it was 39.6%, jessica, during the clinton administration. now there's some suggestion what if they compromise, have it go up to 36% or 37%, is that something you're hearing the white house would potentially be open to? not 39.6% but maybe 37%? >> reporter: this seems like an area, yes, for wiggle room, wolf. not because they say so, but because of what they won't say. when we asked that question, the white house does not say that it must only go back up to that high clinton rate. and so...
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you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria indeed, which is saying it's not going to do, uses the weapons out of desperation, because here you have some rebel strongholds that is not bowing to the syrian regime, despite the fact that it is repeatedly conventionally bombed. when you reach a level where there is desperation for a regime that feels everything around it is crumbling, the question is what will it use in order to try in some desperate last ditch measure to protect itself. that is the concern. the u.s. has always said this is a concern because it is not just within the borders of syria, that it
you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria...
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did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so ou
did he specify the 39.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go...
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>> well, i think what is going on now, you know, if you look and you see secretary clinton is traveling to the middle east on monday. i think what the administration is scrambling to do now is to try and put together an international coalition, much as we saw them do with libya. talking to the arab league, talking to gulf allies, talking to nato, because, of course, we're better off if we don't have to act alone. if we have the support of the international community, you know, but, frankly, i think i probably fall down where senator mccain was at least implying, and that is we've waited awfully long and we've made it a far more difficult task by waiting until now to intervene there? what's at stake? this is not the first time that chemical weapons were used in the region. we all know and remember when saddam hussein used nerve gas on the kurds in iraq. explain what happens. >> well, it takes -- i think people really underestimate or don't appreciate sort of just how powerful these are. you know, back the group in japan used it on a train, and the train doors opened, and most everyone th
>> well, i think what is going on now, you know, if you look and you see secretary clinton is traveling to the middle east on monday. i think what the administration is scrambling to do now is to try and put together an international coalition, much as we saw them do with libya. talking to the arab league, talking to gulf allies, talking to nato, because, of course, we're better off if we don't have to act alone. if we have the support of the international community, you know, but,...
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kerry are considered high on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest advisers. she was his principal foreign policy adviser during his first campaign and helped shape his world view. they have a similar world view. all of this signifies susan rice would be influential when she goes to speak to diplomats around the world and world leaders and also in formulating foreign policy, which is very good for the state department. on the downside, you see what's happening with the benghazi affair. she's likely to have a bruising confirmation process. some republican senators said they might hold up her nomination. that could drag out a while. john kerry, on the other hand, would b
kerry are considered high on the president's list of possible replacements for hillary clinton who has said that she is not staying on for the president's second term. cnn's elise labott is at the state department to talk about it. do a comparison for us, off the bat. pros and cons for the top diplomatic post. the halls of the state department are buzzing with potential new secretary of state. both would make a strong candidate. susan rice, for instance, one of president obama's closest...
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what i'm not hearing from the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is. you have to strike that hard enough to virtually incinerate all the chemical or biological material there before it escapes into the atmosphere. if those chemical weapons started to go on the move, in artillery shells or bombs, could you chase them all down? and, of course, in syria, much of this material is located or co-located in neighborhoods and towns with civilian populations. so you're putting civilian populations at risk. i think that's why you're hearing the very tough language from washington to nato headquarters. everybody wants this stopped before it even happens, brooke. >> talking abou
what i'm not hearing from the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is....
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. >> well, defense of marriage act -- defense of marriage act was signed by president clinton in 1996, and it's a law that says the federal government, all as pecks of the federal government, including the internal revenue service will not recognize same-sex marriages even many states where same-sex marriage is legal and two appeals courts have held that that is unconstitutional, that it is unlawful discrimination. the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's now being defended by a lawyer hired by the house of representatives, and the case about is the defense of marriage act constitutional, that is one. there are several different cases raising that issue that the justices are probably going to decide whether to hear today. >> california's prop 8, what would that entail? >> propositional is a very different case because that's really a more fundamental case that potentially could apply in every state of the union. basically that question is does the constitution require that everyone, gay or straight, has the right to get married, and what makes the propos
. >> well, defense of marriage act -- defense of marriage act was signed by president clinton in 1996, and it's a law that says the federal government, all as pecks of the federal government, including the internal revenue service will not recognize same-sex marriages even many states where same-sex marriage is legal and two appeals courts have held that that is unconstitutional, that it is unlawful discrimination. the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's...
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former clinton era labor secretary and big time liberal economist robert reich had been saying for years the mortgage interest deduction should end. but he acknowledged the political realities make that hard to do. if you can't get rid of it, maybe the government should limit it. >> it should be limited, i believe. you can't get rid of it politically. it is almost impossible. but also economically, if you simply got rid of it altogether, the housing market would take a big hit. >> that assumes that some people won't buy a house if they don't get the tax break and i'm not sure that's true. that's what you need to know about your money right now. i will see you this weekend, tomorrow, 1:00 p.m. eastern, sunday at 3:00. you'll meet the one single democrat in the current congress who signed the norquist anti-tax pledge. and we'll find out if he's sticking to his guns. from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi with your money. of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on
former clinton era labor secretary and big time liberal economist robert reich had been saying for years the mortgage interest deduction should end. but he acknowledged the political realities make that hard to do. if you can't get rid of it, maybe the government should limit it. >> it should be limited, i believe. you can't get rid of it politically. it is almost impossible. but also economically, if you simply got rid of it altogether, the housing market would take a big hit. >>...